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Chest Boxes

Chest boxes are key components of two important climbing systems. Single channel boxes are used for various rope-walking systems (although a few of us still prefer the old shoulder Gibbs). Double channel boxes are used for the Mitchell System and its extension, the Cuddington 3-Phase. I use the Cuddington for almost all of my vertical caving. The Cuddington is extremely versatile and not terribly sensitive to sling lengths. It requires more time to learn well than some other systems, but taking the time to learn it well is well worth the effort. For many years, I used Fritzke’s Alpine Box and was quite pleased with it. Previously I used a modified Gossett Block (specifically, Darrel Tomer’s Custom Gossett #12) which also worked well for me, but the Alpine Box allows faster mode changes and rigging. The double-rope Flash Bar deserved very serious consideration as well, it was quite light, but its strength was an issue (even though a chest box should not be rigged as life support equipment). Today I prefer the double rope PMI box, which is exceptionally well made, very smooth, easy to use, and surprisingly light.

In the ID column, I used a red background for single channel rollers and a green background for double channel rollers.

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Image ID  Device ↓ Description Acquired Weight ↓ Height ↓ Width ↓ Thickness ↓ Std. volume ↓
Barhar 3925 Barhar Solid plate, single Al roller, side entry, pin-activated gate, sewn harness Barhar, 2024 607
(including. harness)
78 175 55 751
Bassett Metal Studios, Prototype 3855 Bassett Metal Studios, Prototype Solid plate, single nylon roller, side entry, button-activated gate Bassett Metal Studios, 2023 217 69 191 44 583
Bassett Metal Studios, Version A 704
2608
Bassett Metal Studios, Version A Solid plate, single roller, side entry, button-activated gate
  • Inner Mountain Outfitters, 1997
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
273 70 190 49 652
Bassett Metal Studios, Version B 2877 on 2876 Bassett Metal Studios, Version B Solid plate, single roller, side entry, button-activated gate On Rope 1, 2021 224 70 190 48 630
Bassett Metal Studios, Version C

 

2874

Bassett Metal Studios, Version C Solid plate, single roller, side entry, button-activated gate On Rope 1, 2021 276 70 190 49 655
Bassett Metal Studios, Version D 2975 Bassett Metal Studios, Version D Solid plate, double roller, inside entry, button-activated gates On Rope 1, 2021 395 70 190 49 655
BlueWater 1831
2603
BlueWater, Version A Solid plate, extruded channel, two rope, 1 straight roller, bolt closure
  • David Jones, 2017
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
316 76 127 74 712
BlueWater 632
1797
3793
BlueWater, Version B Solid plate, extruded channel, two rope, 1 straight roller, bolt closure
  • ≈1976
  • Barbara Anne Am Ende, 2012 (Given to Артём Бабин)
  • Emily Davis, 2022
330 76 131 74 737
British 824 British Solid plate, bent channel, two rope, 2 cylindrical rollers, bolt closure Brian Trevelyan, 2005 283 77 128 69 680
Cam Box 739 Cam Box Solid Plate, 2 rope grooves, 1 /w Jumar cam, hinged front, screw-knob closure Bob Danielson, 2000 504 89 172 35 536
Dave Lester 1706 Dave Lester Nylon box containing Simmons roller and Karst Works Harness. Weight is approximate. Dave Lester, 1920 280 67 279 65 1206
Dave Stoltz 1663 Dave Stoltz Milled Al plate /w 2 Simmons Rollers Howie’s Harnesses 389 51 227 62 720
Debert Province 3789 Debert Province Solid plate, extruded channel, two rope, straight rollers, bolt closure Kelley Deem, 2022 254 70 83 66 385
Flash Bar, double rope 722
2712
Flash Bar, double rope Rod frame /w roll pins, double roller, side entry, pull-knob activated gates
  • Inner Mountain Outfitters, 1999
  • Bill Liebman, 2017
150 51 215 54 592
Flash Bar, single rope 718 Flash Bar, single rope Rod frame /w roll pins, single roller, side entry, pull-knob activated gate Inner Mountain Outfitters, 1999 118 51 215 54 592
Fritzke Alpine Box 631
2605
Fritzke Alpine Box Solid plate, two rollers, swing gate with latch
  • Mike Fritzke, 1992
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
293 51 203 42 435
Geary Schindel 3899 Geary Schindel Solid plate, extruded channel, two rope, 1 straight roller, 2 rollers each side, bolt closure Geary Schindel, 2023 414 75 145 75 816
Gossett, Version A 2655
2747
Gossett Block, Version A Extruded frame, two channel, 4 straight rollers, sharp corners, male knurl.
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
  • Rick Banning, 2019
328 64 84 41 220
Gossett, Version A 633 Gossett Block, Version A (Modified) Extruded frame, two channel, 4 straight rollers, sharp corners, male knurl.
Modified to mount on a Gossett Plate.
Darrel Tomer (?), 1978 328 64 84 41 220
Gossett, Version B 2707 Gossett Block, Version B Extruded frame, two rope, 4 straight rollers, rounded corners, male knurl. Bill Liebman, 2017 328 64 86 41 225
Gossett, Version C 1611
2878
Gossett Block, Version C Extruded frame, two channel, 4 straight rollers, sharp corners, female knurl.
  • Gene Clinger, 2008
  • On Rope 1, 2021
368 64 85 41 223
Gossett, Version D

2841

Gossett Block, Version D Extruded frame, two channel, 4 straight rollers, sharp corners, wide knobs, male knurl. Gary Storrick, 2021 365 65 85 41 229
Gossett, Version E

1784
2684
3763

Gossett Block, Version E Extruded frame, two channel, 4 shaped rollers, sharp corners, male knurl.
  • Charlotte Phillips, 2012
  • Bob & Bob, 2017
  • Carol Veseley, 2022
370 65 86 41 228
Gossett, Version F 2708 Gossett Block, Version F Extruded frame, two channel, 4 shaped rollers, sharp corners, male & female knurls. Bill Liebman, 2017 372 66 86 41 231
Gossett, Version G 1833 Gossett Block, Version G Extruded frame, two channel, 4 shaped rollers, sharp corners, female knurl. James Thompson, 2014 376 65 85 41 231
Gossett, Version H 634
2601
Gossett Block, Version H Extruded frame, two channel, 4 shaped rollers, rounded corners, female knurl.
  • Speleoshoppe, 1982
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
367 64 84 41 220
Gossett, Version I 2709 Gossett Block, Version I Extruded frame, two rope, 4 shaped rollers, sharp corners, female knurl, no slots, drilled for Gossett Plate. Bill Liebman, 2017 399 66 86 41 231
Gossett Block, Custom 1 3764 Gossett Block, Custom 1 Extruded frame, two channel, 2 straight rollers, sharp corners, male knurl. Carol Veseley, 2022 276 63 85 41 220
Gossett Block, Custom 2 3765 Gossett Block, Custom 2 Extruded & milled frame, one channel, 2 shaped rollers, sharp corners, female knurl. Carol Veseley, 2022 182 66 58 38 146
Gossett Block, Custom 3 3766 Gossett Block, Custom 3 Extruded frame, two channel, milled for quick rollers. Carol Veseley, 2022 366 66 86 41 230
Gossett Block, Custom 4 3767 Gossett Block, Custom 4 Extruded frame, one channel, milled for quick rollers. Carol Veseley, 2022 186 66 58 41 155
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom #10 653 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom #10 Extruded frame, two channel, 2 straight rollers, sharp corners, male knurl.
(modified #2655)
Darrel Tomer, 1984 178 32 84 41 110
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom #11 654 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom #11 Extruded frame, two channel, one shaft, for cable slings.
(modified #2655)
Darrel Tomer, 1984 173 33 59 41 80
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom #12 655 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom #12 Extruded frame, two channel, 2 shaped rollers
(skeletonized #634)
Darrel Tomer, 1984 166 66 86 41 233
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom #13 656 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom #13 Extruded frame, one channel, roller on screw knob
(modified #634)
Darrel Tomer, 1984 72 31 39 41 50
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom #14 657 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom #14 Extruded frame, one channel, roller & cam on screw knobs
(modified #634)
Darrel Tomer, 1984 231 66 58 41 157
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom #15 658 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom #15 Extruded frame, one channel, roller & cam on QR pins
(modified #634)
Darrel Tomer, 1984 215 65 58 42 158
Gossett Block,  Darrell Tomer Custom /w QR Pin 2602 Gossett Block, Darrel Tomer Custom /w QR Pin Extruded frame, two rope, 2 roller pairs each on QR pin. Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 312 85 64 40 217
Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version A 2842 Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version A Extruded frame, two rope, 2 shaped rollers
(modified #1833)
Gary Storrick, 2021 350 65 86 41 229
Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version B 2843 Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version B Extruded frame, two rope, 2 shaped rollers
(modified #1833)
Gary Storrick, 2021 311 66 85 41 232
Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version C 3730 Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version C Extruded frame, one rope, 2 shaped rollers
(modified #1833)
Gary Storrick, 2022 196 66 58 41 156
Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version D 3731 Gossett Block, Storrick Custom Version D Extruded frame, one rope, 1 shaped roller
(modified #1833)
Gary Storrick, 2022 113 65 58 41 154
I Climb (元鴻興有限公司) #965 3863 I Climb
(元鴻興有限公司) #965
Solid plate, one roller, swing gate with latch I Climb via Kevin M. Mai ZhongJie, 2023 ≈270 58 156 78 707
Jim Gossett Prototype Box #1 3769 Jim Gossett Prototype Box #1 Milled Al, 2 channel, no gates Carol Veseley, 2022 264 75 102 53 403
Jim Gossett Prototype Box #2 3768 Jim Gossett Prototype Box #2 Milled frame, two channel, metal rollers on 2 QR pins, straight slotts Carol Veseley, 2022 339 70 77 39 207
Jim Gossett Prototype Plate 3770 Jim Gossett Prototype Plate SS sheet metal plate, no mechanism (incomplete) Carol Veseley, 2022 (66) 63 98 19 116
J. E. Weinel Inc. 648 J. E. Weinel Inc. Milled solid plate, screw-mounted Simmons Roller John E. Weinel, Inc., 1991 288 86 102 61 535
Joe Flansburg 1806 Joe Flansburg Cut aluminum plate, bolted angles, nylon roller on QR pin, noncommercial Thomas Flansburg, 2013 465 87 178 52 799
John Blum, Version A 635
1897
John Blum, Version A Cast frame, 2 rope, nylon rollers on common shaft, swing-open
  • Inner Mountain Outfitters, 1988
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
256 77 127 44 430
John Blum, Version B 1879
2710
John Blum, Version B Cast frame, 2 rope, nylon rollers on common shaft, swing-open
  • CarolJo Rushin-Elron, 2020
  • Bill Liebman, 2017 (Given to Артём Бабин)
254 76 125 44 415
John Blum, Version C 3788 John Blum, Version C Cast frame, 2 rope, nylon rollers on common shaft, swing-open Galen Hekhuis, 2022 239 77 127 44 428
John Blum, Version D 636
1898
John Blum, Version D Cast frame, 2 rope, brass rollers on common shaft, swing-open
  • Bob & Bob, 1993
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
327 64 175 43 482
John Blum, Version E 1899 John Blum, Version E Cast frame, painted, 2 rope, brass rollers on common shaft, swing-open Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 332 66 177 44 507
John Blum, Version F 2711 John Blum, Version F Cast frame, painted, 2 rope, brass rollers on common shaft, swing-open (2) Bill Liebman, 2017 327 65 176 43 489
Landau, Version A 637 Landau, Version A Milled frame, single pulley, small sides, QR pin for side pivot Robert Landau, 1985 99 57 57 57 185
Landau, Version B 638 Landau, Version B Milled frame, single pulley, large sides, QR pin for side pivot Robert Landau, 1985 108 63 57 60 215
Ledbetter Double 639 Ledbetter Double Solid SS frame, dual rope, nylon pulleys on single QR pin Inner Mountain Outfitters, 1991 404 77 100 57 439
Ledbetter Single 2604 Ledbetter Single Solid SS frame, single rope, nylon pulley on QR pin, bungie pullie connected with small maillon Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 325 76 100 57 433
Mainstruck (prototype) 669 Mainstruck (prototype) Carbon fiber frame, two rope, rollers on QR pins Geary Schindel, 1993 272 76 151 60 689
Neill Box, Version A 640 Neill Box, Version A Extruded frame, two rope, 2 rollers, swinging side gates Speleoshoppe, 1979 248 63 77 69 335
Neill Box, Version B 823
2600
Neill Box, Version B Extruded Al frame, soft anodized, two rope, 2 rollers, swinging side gates, 3 harness slots
  • Brian Trevelyan, 2005
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
208 76 76 61 354
On Rope 1, Lightweight Single 694 On Rope 1, Lightweight Single Skeletonized plate, captured standard Simmons Roller On Rope 1, 1996 195 76 201 54 825
On Rope 1, Lightweight Double, Version A 706 On Rope 1, Lightweight Double, Version A Skeletonized plate, dual captured standard Simmons Rollers On Rope 1, 1997 315 76 200 54 821
On Rope 1, Lightweight Double, Version B 1664
2652
On Rope 1, Lightweight Double, Version B
(a.k.a. Stealth II)
Skeletonized plate, dual captured standard Simmons Rollers
  • On Rope 1, 2009
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
326 76 203 55 841
On Rope 1, Lightweight Double, Version C 2713 On Rope 1, Lightweight Double, Version C
(a.k.a. Stealth II)

Skeletonized plate, dual captured standard Simmons Rollers (quality control reject: mismatched rollers & shells) Bill Liebman, 2017 317 76 203 55 857
On Rope 1, Standard Double 693 On Rope 1, Standard Double Solid plate, dual captured Simmons Rollers, sewn shoulder strap buckles On Rope 1, 1996 465 77 200 54 832
Paul Stovall 1705 Paul Stovall Solid plate, two rollers, swing gate with latch John Woods, 2010 334 57 203 39 456
PMI, single rope 818
2653
3777
PMI, single rope
Star Star Star
Milled plate, milled post, single roller, wire safety
  • PMI, 2005
  • (2) Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
301 75 197 54 792
PMI, double rope 819
1708
2607
PMI, double rope, Version A
Star Star Star
Milled plate, milled post, double roller, wire safety
  • PMI, 2005
  • Cargo Largo 2011
  • (2) Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
353 75 197 54 792
PMI, double rope, Version B 3926 PMI, double rope, Version B Milled plate, milled post, double roller, spring-loaded safety PMI, 2024 886
(including. harness)
76 192 55 803
R. C. Schroeder, Version A 2739 R. C. Schroeder, Version A SS sheet metal frame, large single roller, button-activated hinged opening On Rope 1, 2018 157 36 75 57 155
R. C. Schroeder, Version B 641
2609
2737
R. C. Schroeder, Version B SS sheet metal frame, single roller, button-activated hinged opening
  • R. C. Schroeder, 1992
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
  • On Rope 1, 2018
135 37 85 48 151
R. C. Schroeder, Version C 2738 R. C. Schroeder, Version C SS sheet metal frame, single roller, button-activated hinged opening On Rope 1, 2018 128 31 81 49 121
R. C. Schroeder, Version D 2740 R. C. Schroeder, Version D SS sheet metal frame, large single roller, button-activated hinged opening On Rope 1, 2018 237 63 96 56 339
R. C. Schroeder, Version E 2610 R. C. Schroeder, Version E SS sheet metal frame, single roller, button-activated hinged opening Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 211 98 63 48 297
R. C. Schroeder, Version F 2611 R. C. Schroeder, Version F SS sheet metal frame, single roller, button-activated hinged opening Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 485 255 63 74 1189
R. C. Schroeder, Version G 684 R. C. Schroeder, Version G Skeletonized plate, single roller, side entry, button activated gate R. C. Schroeder, 1995 167 38 240 51 465
R. C. Schroeder, Version H 770
2651
R. C. Schroeder, Version H Solid plate, single roller, side entry, button-activated gate
  • R. C. Schroeder, 2002
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
191 45 177 49 388
R. C. Schroeder, Version I 789 R. C. Schroeder, Version I Solid plate, two rollers, side entry, button-activated gate R. C. Schroeder, 2003 389 53 215 50 564
Russian, Alpine Box Copy 651 Russian, Alpine Box Copy Solid plate, two rollers, swing gate with latch Vladimir Kisseljov & Ilia Alexandrov, 1994 287 55 210 53 612
Russian, Simmons Roller Copy 649 Russian, Simmons Roller Copy Pressed U frame, straight roller mounted on QR pin Vladimir Kisseljov & Ilia Alexandrov, 1994 114 48 63 63 191
Russian, Double Simmons Roller Copy 650 Russian, Double Simmons Roller Copy Solid plate, two rope, screw-mounted U frames, pulleys on QR pins Vladimir Kisseljov & Ilia Alexandrov, 1994 412 55 210 69 797
Simmons Compact Double 642
2617
Simmons Compact Double Solid plate, dual screw-mounted asymmetrical Simmons Rollers
  • Ron Simmons
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
244 51 72 53 195
Simmons Double 643
2616
Simmons Double Solid plate, dual screw-mounted Simmons Rollers
  • Inner Mountain Outfitters, 1991
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
326 51 113 64 369
Simmons Racing Single, Version A 3895 Simmons Racing Single, Version A Solid plate, screw-mounted Simmons roller Bru Randall, 2023 313 51 241 60 733
Simmons Racing Single, Version B 644
2618
Simmons Racing Single, Version B Solid plate, screw-mounted Simmons roller
  • Ron Simmons
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
314 51 241 61 750
Simmons Racing Single, Version C 2714 Simmons Racing Single, Version C Solid plate, screw-mounted Simmons roller Bill Liebman, 2017 303 51 242 64 783
Simmons Racing Double 2619 Simmons Racing Double Solid plate, two screw-mounted Simmons rollers Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 428 241 51 64 778
Simmons Single 645
3896
Simmons Single, Version A Pressed U frame, straight roller mounted on QR pin
  • Ron Simmons, c. 1981
  • Bru Randall, 2023
82 57 51 47 137
Simmons Single, Version B 2613
2749
Simmons Single, Version B Pressed U frame, straight roller mounted on QR pin
  • Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
  • Bob Elron, 2019
82 57 51 47 136
Simmons Single, Version C 646
1672 (2)
2614
2615
2715
Simmons Single, Version C Pressed U frame, U-groove roller mounted on QR pin
  • Geary Schindel, 1992
  • (2) Howie’s Harnesses, 2009
  • (2) Bob Thrun Collection, 2017
  • Bill Liebman, 2017
94 51 57 55 158
Simmons Single Prototype 2612 Simmons Single Prototype Gibbs ascender frame, straight roller mounted on QR pin Bob Thrun Collection, 2017 89 73 57 49 200
Speleoshoppe, Version A 686 Speleoshoppe, Version A Solid plate, extruded channel, two rope, 2 straight rollers, bolt closure Inner mountain Outfitters, 1995 305 76 126 73 699
Speleoshoppe, Version B 1820 Speleoshoppe, Version B Solid plate, extruded channel, two rope, 2 rollers, bolt closure John Woods, 2014 309 76 127 74 720
Storrick 652 Storrick, Version A Solid plate, bent channel, two rope, 1 shaped roller, bolt closure, noncommercial Robert W. Storrick, 1976 229 64 108 80 553
Storrick 2885 Storrick, Version B Solid plate, two rope, SS bearing rollers, swinging gates, noncommercial Gary Storrick, 2021 333 66 152 49 489
Storrick – Peter Hamilton, Croydon Caving Club Rig 3 2865 Storrick – Peter Hamilton, Croydon Caving Club Rig 3
Threaded rod, needle bearing roller, harness tabs, noncommercial Gary Storrick, 2021 146 38 204 38 294
Unknown Box 2854 Unknown Box
Extruded frame, two rope, two QR pins, no rollers cptnamerica2003, 2021 268 80 98 41 316
Unknown Plate #1 2748 Unknown Plate #1 Plastic plate,screw-mounted Simmons roller Bob Elron, 2019 455 53 205 67 736
Unknown Plate #2 3890 Unknown Plate #2 Al plate,harness-mounted Simmons roller Boulder Sports Recycler via Tom Leahy, 2023 460 69 305 10 214
Unknown Roller 3883 Unknown Roller
Homemade, U frame, straight roller mounted bolt Barry J. Rousey, 2023 86 58 42 66 163
Vertical Supply 647 Vertical Supply Solid plate, captured Simmons Roller, bungie pulley on accessory cord Vertical Supply, 1993 268 77 202 54 840

Chest box Weight Chart

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